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SAM
HILL
is the founder of
the charity which was originally
formed to raise money for
Iron Maiden's former drummer Clive Burr
who suffers from Multiple
Sclerosis
and which has now become an
international fundraising organisation

spoke to Sam about how it all started
and where it's going now!
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Sam. You've been involved with CliveAid right
from the beginning - what gave you the idea of
doing a fundraiser at the Ruskin Arms, and how
did you make that first show happen?
Dave Shaw and I were walking along and chatting
about Clive, and with a bit of wordplay we came
up with CliveAid, like LiveAid - the name made
us laugh, so we decided to put on a gig. That's
it! Simple, but bloody effective! So, having got
a name and the idea for a show, the next step
was to get a venue. We still hadn't got as far
as thinking about which bands to put on! I called
the Ruskin Arms in London's East End, which was
Iron Maiden's old home ground, and very soon it
was a done deal. Next up... bands. Well I had
been working with a few bands for a number of
years and called on them first, and then we needed
a link with Iron Maiden's past, so we bit the
bullet and contacted friends who'd played with
the band in the early days.
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What
was the response from those taking part, and from
Clive himself, and from the fans? The response
from everyone was amazing. As with everything
we do it is all about the people not the "rockstars".
Making the phone calls was easy - once they knew
what the event was for they signed up there and
then. You know it was at this show that an embryonic
GMT played for the first time. It was a great
moment especially as our own Robin Guy was behind
the kit. Making things happen is easy, it's making
them happen time after time that is hard, and
ensuring they are always as good if not better
than the last! We made the upstairs of the Ruskin
Arms into the band area, with the riders all set
out, and the buzz up there was awesome. Clive,
well he was shellshocked at the outpouring of
feelings from everyone. Funnily enough, after
a brandy or two and a few Marlboros he seemed
to really get into it! Seriously though, he had
a great time. All the fans that came also had
a great time - it was a wonderful thing to see
and to be part of.
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Tell
us about how Clive's drumkit found a home in the
Hard Rock Cafe. During a visit to Clive's
place prior to the renovations which would make
his house more suitable for his wheelchair etc,
we saw this great pile of cases in his garage...
old drum cases full of bits of rock history. We
had a chat with him about the memories surrounding
the kit, which as Clive put it, was just "cluttering
up the garage" - imagine it, the kit that
was used on such amazing recordings as Number
Of The Beast and Killers was just lying around
in a garage! So Robin and I set about working
out what we could do to give it the respect it
deserved. I called Don Bernstein who is the guy
from Hard Rock Cafe in Orlando, and the next thing
we know, we are holding a party at the Hard Rock
Cafe on London's Mayfair to celebrate Clive's
drumkit being displayed by the Hard Rock Cafe,
and also to launch the Hard Rock dvd about collecting
memorabilia. It was a great party, and what a
guest list! We got Bruce, Janick and Adrian from
Iron Maiden to come along and they were joined
by rock legends such as Tony Iommi, Ian Paice
and many more. It's great that the kit was then
able to travel around the world, and its permanent
home is now at the Warsaw Cafe in Poland.
After this, things snowballed
very quickly - how soon did you realise that CliveAid
was going to run and run?
To be honest I'm not sure it has sunk in even
now. It's a strange thing really, for us it was
never going to go away, but now it's international
and we have an office in Los Angeles and Bergen
as well as here in England - it's mad! But it's
also fantastic that we can help so many people
through doing something we all love, which is
simply rocking out and having a great time. Okay
there is a message with all we do and it's a very
strong one. Our work with Cancer is growing and
is offering support to many many people and at
the same time we are continuing to support Clive.
CliveAid
started out purely to raise money for Clive Burr,
but now you include other good causes. Tell us
about some of the other charities you're involved
with.
Yeh, we are working on two other main areas. In
the USA we are working to raise awareness for
Teen Cancer with the "Teen Impact" programme.
This works by giving kids another option as well
as medical treatment by taking them to camps or
to Outward Bound groups and working on their self
confidence. It's really rewarding and great fun.
We're also heavily into promotiong awaresness
on testicular cancer, yeh... the "Family
Jewels"... Now that's a topic most guys will
either not talk about or just lie "yeh it's
that big". The sad reality is that more and
more blokes are getting testicular cancer. It's
one of those cancers that we don't talk about.
A couple of us at CliveAid have had a brush with
this, me included. It's bloody scary when you
get told "yes that's a cancerous growth"
and we need to address it. So we are working with
a testicular cancer chairty to get the message
to more people. We won't be in their faces, but
we will have the info to hand and will aim to
make it available to as many people as we can.
We will be at many of the summer festivals and
major events promoting awareness. Our own shows
will of course carry info about it and there will
be some very special events taking place. We need
help to get blokes to talk about it. If they ignore
it it only gets worse, so the message is simple...
check your balls, fellas. It's better than losing
them - and a damn site less painful, trust me!
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Maiden themselves have shown a lot of support
for Clive Aid, raising the profile and encouraging
other well-known names to get involved - even
tennis champion Pat Cash has done his bit for
the cause! Who else has taken part and what did
they bring to party? That is so very true
- everyone at Iron Maiden has been fantastic.
The guys have come along to events and sent signed
stuff for us to auction. I must say it has been
amazing the response we have had from them all.
As for Pat Cash, the story behind that is that
Noel, our media guy, met Pat at a school event
and in passing asked Pat if he would consider
helping out. Noel wasn't expecting to get an answer
straight away but Pat modelled the t-shirt right
there on the spot. We hope to do more with him
this year. We have a list of people from authors
to rock stars and it's growing all the time. Actually
we are in the process of recording a CliveAid
anthem which has been written in LA by Ronny Munroe
of Metal Church and Corey Jackson who scores movies
and shows for the SciFi chanel. So many people
have helped us - the Quireboys, Stray, LA Guns,
Iron Maiden, GMT, Saxon, Girlschool, Fun Loving
Criminals, Buckcherry etc.
With
people like that involved there must have been
some very rocknroll moments along the way and
you must have had a lot of laughs. Tell us some
of the funny things that have happened.
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errrm no not that one (talking about that one
might get me involved in a court case!!) Okay,
yeh there have been some great moments. One was
at the Birthday Bash in 2007. We managed to keep
a very special appearance top secret. We had invited
Bruce Dickinson along to the party and it had
been arranged that he would get up and do a song.
So Bruce arrives, hangs around a bit then dissapears
backstage. As Sacktrick (all dressed in striped
bathing costumes) are at the end of their set,
Bruce appears in a a striped bathing costume of
his own and strikes the old Bruce Forsyth "nice
to see you, to see you nice" pose then gets
up and sings Delilah! The looks on crowd's faces
were awesome! Drunk moments? Too many to get into.
When we went to Bergen in Norway in 2007 for the
first time, we had been warned how expensive it
is, but nothing prepared us for quite how expensive.
We had just landed, driven to the hotel and popped
out for a snack. Ah, pizza, that won't be too
pricey... so we ordered two pizzas and four cokes...
sit down, no, really, Sit Down...... £45!!!
For the first time ever we were all lost for words
at the same time - no wonder the guys in Norway
are all thin!
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Bring
us up to date on how CliveAid has developed over
the last four years. It's been a really
great ride - a little strange sometimes, but amazing.
From the day after the first show we have been
in constant touch with people from all over the
world and the amazing thing is this, humanity
is still doing great things. As for CliveAid itself,
we have had to move with the expectations. The
purists may say we are too big, but we are helping
as many people as we can. We now operate in Norway,
the USA, the UK and we are due to be going to
Sweden, France, Germany, Holland and even India
this year. The team has grown and we have all
types of people with us now, from lawyers (very
useful!) to rockstars and everybody in between.
Our shows are moving up a gear to be real full-production
shows, our merchandise is being increased, and
we are really very excited about the coming years.
It's great.
Which
are your own proudest CliveAid moments?
This is going to sound very boring but I have
to say it's seeing the faces of the people we
help and also the faces of the crowds at the shows.
That's what makes it all real. It's one thing
to be typing away on the laptop doing all the
administration but the realisation is at the live
shows and also going out to see the people who
are being helped as a result of the fundraising.
On another note I have to say having Bruce Dickinson
perform was an amazingly proud moment, especially
as Paul Dianno sang on the same night as well.
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What shows are coming up in the CliveAid calendar?
First up we have our February tour of new and
upcoming bands. This is something we are getting
involved in, giving young hardworking bands a
small tour to get out of their comfort zone and
to play to new crowds. Then in March we are off
to Norway again (no bloody pizza this time), and
in May we have a great show on the 31st. We have
the live final of our Battle Of The Bands competition
- check out the website
for more information about that. The winners will
open the show for a line up of classic rock and
new bands including Tygers Of Pan Tang, Shy and
Blaze Bayley. Then it's festival season, so we
will be all over the place. In September we're
going to Los Angeles and India. So it's a full
year - but great fun!
What are your top 5 Desert
Island Discs - and why?
You're probably expecting me to have a Maiden
track on here... but... sorry! Here's my Top 5...
1. Ride The Lightning by Metallica - it's raw,
solid, and very truthful, and it gets the blood
going
2. Brave by Marillion - that one got me through
cancer so it's a real winner!
3. Start From The Dark by Europe - great new-sounding
Europe stuff, full of life and really great tracks
4. Vulgar Display Of Power by Pantera - brutal!
Great stuff to wake you up on those wet island
days!
5. Escape by Journey - got to have an album to
get romantic with, just in case a pretty native
happens to walk by...
Which classic bands do you
think have contributed most over the years musically
to the current music scene, and which of today's
bands do you think are contributing most to tomorrow's
music?
Wow that's a tough one. With so many genres around
it's hard to say who did what and when, but sometimes
its the less famous bands who really stuck out
for me. Diamond Head, Shy, Tygers Of Pan Tang
and Marillion (both the Fish and Steve eras) were
all total class in the day they wrote some incredible
tracks, hey, good enough for Metallica! It goes
without saying that bands like Zepplin, Purple,
Hendrix and Sabbath all wrote the rules but band
like Rush, Marilllion, Venom and of course Van
Halen all played a major part in creating the
sounds that today's bands all keeping going back
to. You ask about new bands but I must add a middle
section, bands like System Of A Down, Slipknot,
Pantera and our own Therapy? and the Wildhearts
have got to be mentioned - not yet Classic but
still a massive influence worldwide. As for today,
now this may be where I get the Soap Box out..
so here goes... we have some awesome young/new
bands out there, bands many people have not even
heard of, for instance Lunapins from Wales, Headrush,
Civillian, Hanging Doll, Lethal Fix... the list
goes on and on.
What
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'Pay to Play' must be stopped. How the hell does
a young (often poor) band get out to gig if the
venues are charging them to play! Okay it works
both ways, because lazy bands - and there are
a few out there, you know who you are - cannot
and must not expect a venue or promoter to do
all the work. We need to encourage our new music
not stifle it. We don't pay our bands at CliveAid
regardless of their stature, but we do look after
all the bands who help us, because we respect
what they're doing. If bands want to be taken
seriously they have to "play" hard,
and not "pay" hard. Check out the bands
I mentioned - and if you're in a hardworking band
then hey, get in touch, we will help if we can.
What
would you like to be doing in five years time?
Honestly, I'd love to be still doing this! I'm
hoping we can continue to build it, make it a
bigger name worldwide so we can get the message
out to more people. And in five years I'm hoping
our CliveAid festival will be firmly established
- Dave and I are planning a festival to be launched
in 2010, or even before if it all comes together.
And on a personal level I'd love to be playing
across Europe in my band Secret
Society - go on, check out our website...
we're awesome!
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And
I would
also like to say to everyone who has helped
us so far (and to those who don't know it yet
but will help us very soon!) a massive thanks.
We are changing lives through this music of
ours!

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